Episode 4 - "Schedules, Chaos & Survival: The Mom Divide"

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Hello. [00:00:02] Speaker B: You guys, stop. Is it Mama Clock yet? I'm going crazy. [00:00:07] Speaker A: Heck yeah. It's Mama Clock somewhere. [00:00:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:00:34] Speaker A: It's Friday. Whoa. It's Friday. [00:00:41] Speaker B: Okay. She can't sing, but she thinks she can if she's in front of a mic. [00:00:44] Speaker A: I can't say okay, Another time. Okay. [00:00:47] Speaker B: Anyway, Episode four. We're back. [00:00:52] Speaker A: We're back. We're better. We're live. We're hot. We're ovulating. [00:00:56] Speaker B: It's great. [00:00:57] Speaker A: It's great. [00:00:57] Speaker B: We got our dear friend Pearl here. [00:00:59] Speaker A: My girl Pearl. Shout out to Pearl, our statue. Shout out to 703 and their apparel. We're dedicating this episode to them today. You can find them on Instagram. Their handle is 703apparel. Check them out. Girl's gonna be wearing them all day long. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Cool. [00:01:15] Speaker A: Thank you, Pearl. [00:01:16] Speaker B: Thank you, Pearl. [00:01:16] Speaker A: That's that. [00:01:17] Speaker B: All right. [00:01:17] Speaker A: Anyway. I can't believe we're on four. [00:01:19] Speaker B: I do. [00:01:20] Speaker A: I say that every episode. [00:01:21] Speaker B: I feel like every episode we're like, I can't believe it. [00:01:25] Speaker A: Ow. Sorry. Woo. [00:01:27] Speaker B: But we're here and here. We're talking again. [00:01:30] Speaker A: We look good today. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel good. [00:01:32] Speaker A: My husband will stop staring at me. [00:01:34] Speaker B: I know. Because you're glowing. You're ovulating. Things are happening. [00:01:37] Speaker A: I'm like, what do you want? [00:01:38] Speaker B: He's also staring at me too, though. [00:01:40] Speaker A: For sure. I love this for us. Okay. I'm just so excited about this episode. I feel like I have a lot to say. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Okay. I'm excited to see. [00:01:46] Speaker A: This is more of just like a good vibe episode. Informative. [00:01:49] Speaker B: Yeah. We're talking. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Not so deep. [00:01:51] Speaker B: No, not. We're not. Probably not going to cry. We might laugh. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Just. [00:01:56] Speaker A: But this week we're talking about all things schedules, chaos, and survival. The mom divide. [00:02:03] Speaker B: And we are divided. [00:02:05] Speaker A: We are definitely divided. We're divided on everything. [00:02:07] Speaker B: We're also. It's like one of those charts. You know those comparison charts where it's. What are those called? Viag Dia. Those circles. Not Viagra. [00:02:15] Speaker A: Diaphragms. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Diaphragms. Like type A, Type B. And in the middle. We have a lot of in the middles. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:21] Speaker B: And then. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Well, we just got done saying that we got our period at the same time. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Yes, we are. We're in sync. [00:02:26] Speaker A: We got our boobs at the same time. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Boobs. Period. [00:02:28] Speaker A: Fifth grade. [00:02:29] Speaker B: Fifth grade. [00:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Slutty. At the same time. [00:02:31] Speaker A: Yeah. It's fine. And we all have kids. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Did you get married when you were 26? [00:02:36] Speaker A: Yes. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Me too. Did you have your first baby at 28. [00:02:39] Speaker A: I got pregnant at 28, had the baby at 29. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:42] Speaker A: Because it was February, I turned 29 in. [00:02:44] Speaker B: Okay. So if you're on track with me, you have to have three by 33. [00:02:47] Speaker A: I can't. She keeps thinking I'm pregnant. I'm not pregnant. [00:02:49] Speaker B: Well, I'm like, we're doing shots, we're drinking. And sometimes she's just like, okay, can we have a mocktail? I'm like, why are you saying mocktail? [00:02:55] Speaker A: Because my sister in law is pregnant. She keeps saying mocktails. I feel like mocktails are like mocktails. [00:02:59] Speaker B: Coming out of her. I've never heard mocktail in my life. I don't understand mocktails. I don't understand caffeinated espresso. [00:03:06] Speaker A: When you're pregnant. [00:03:07] Speaker B: No. When you're pregnant, yes. [00:03:09] Speaker A: But are you drinking when you're pregnant? [00:03:11] Speaker B: No, I am not drinking when I'm pregnant. Oh, those were hard years. No drinking. [00:03:15] Speaker A: I didn't mind it. The wine was hard, but like I was. Whatever. [00:03:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I minded it. I know you did, but I was fine. Like I managed. [00:03:23] Speaker A: We have to, you know, Jesus Christmas. Okay. We're getting into a lot of things. Schedule, vibe, like chaos, verse, organized. Why do you always have a drink and I just don't? My husband doesn't make me want, but. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Makes you want Mama clock somewhere. [00:03:37] Speaker A: He doesn't even ask me if I want one. [00:03:39] Speaker B: We should get a glass of wine out here or something. Yeah, come on. He loves me more. [00:03:43] Speaker A: He does. [00:03:44] Speaker B: And he wants to. [00:03:45] Speaker A: You've been saying that a lot lately. It's getting out of hand. [00:03:48] Speaker B: Okay, fine. Story of the week. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Story of the frickin week. All right. Can I just say, I had the most amazing week, which is very rare for me. [00:03:56] Speaker B: I love that. Why was it so good? [00:03:58] Speaker A: I just. I don't know if it's because I'm ovulating. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Are you? I just don't. I don't have like ovulating symptoms. [00:04:05] Speaker A: I do. I had like. [00:04:06] Speaker B: She's like her best self when she's ovulating. [00:04:08] Speaker A: Like if you Google ovulation symptoms and it says like lower left back pain. Like I literally, literally have that. [00:04:14] Speaker B: Yeah. That's weird. [00:04:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm like very by the book. [00:04:16] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:16] Speaker A: I had a really good week. I had. I was not anxious at all. I did all my errands of the week. I didn't stress about anything. I just went about my day literally looking around the corner, waiting for anxiety to wrap around my neck. [00:04:30] Speaker B: But it didn't. [00:04:31] Speaker A: No, I was. [00:04:32] Speaker B: You're turning over, like, a new leaf. [00:04:33] Speaker A: I just, like. I felt like myself. It was weird. [00:04:36] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:36] Speaker A: It was almost like I felt so much like myself. [00:04:38] Speaker B: I was like, what's going on? [00:04:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:40] Speaker A: So I'm really proud of myself for that. I didn't really do anything different except ovulating, except my body. That's why I honestly think it's hormones. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe you should go on some weird hormonal. [00:04:50] Speaker A: I'm going to get blood work. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Okay. Do that first. [00:04:53] Speaker A: So, honestly, I don't really have a story of the week, but I just want to let everybody know, like, this whole week was spectacular. Give me 14 of them right now. [00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that for you. [00:05:01] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's my story. Me and Gio just had, like, a spectacular week. [00:05:05] Speaker B: Just, like, go smoothly. Like, your mornings just, like, went smoothly. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Everything. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah. That was not. [00:05:09] Speaker A: I was able to get things done. I, like, baked. [00:05:11] Speaker B: She baked. Banana muffin. Nut muffin? Butternut squash muffin. [00:05:18] Speaker A: No, it was just banana nut. [00:05:19] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:20] Speaker A: They were really good. But I just, like, you know, just had a good week. [00:05:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't. [00:05:27] Speaker A: Why? [00:05:28] Speaker B: You almost lost me this week. Or. [00:05:30] Speaker A: No, I. I felt it. [00:05:32] Speaker B: No, no. Like, I'm not trying to be dramatic, but you actually almost lost me. [00:05:35] Speaker A: I felt it a little bit. Can I tell you why I'm scared? Should I be scared? [00:05:40] Speaker B: This is a true story. Everybody out there. So I can't make this up. Okay. I am, like, very allergic to penicillin, amoxicillin, all this stuff. [00:05:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I know that. [00:05:51] Speaker B: Yes. Okay, so my husband, he had a man cold, so he had. He was on amoxicillin. Didn't think anything of it. Okay, now, so we were doing, like, the sexy time and we were both finishing. He was coming, I was coming. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Wait, time out. Okay, what time of the day was this? Nighttime. He was working. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Okay, so it was like a normal, like, sexy time. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Sexy time. [00:06:19] Speaker A: Nighttime routine. [00:06:20] Speaker B: Nighttime routine, whatever. Yeah. Note to self. Penicillin does pass through semen. [00:06:27] Speaker A: Oh. Googling it my. Yeah. [00:06:29] Speaker B: So I started to break out in hives. My throat started closing. [00:06:34] Speaker A: So you were sucking his dick. [00:06:35] Speaker B: I was. Yeah. And I. I literally was going to die. I had to pop a penadril or. [00:06:42] Speaker A: Lying to me. [00:06:43] Speaker B: No. And I. It is. It is. It's not common, but if you're on amoxicillin, it could pass through your semen. And if your partner is allergic, you gotta warn them. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Oh, wait, stop. Okay, wait a minute. Yeah, it was passing through the mouth. [00:06:58] Speaker B: Nothing through the mouth. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Do you think it would happen if it passed through the. [00:07:00] Speaker B: Yes, it would have, but it. It didn't. Because we're not trying to make a baby. Yeah. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Sorry to be vulgar, but I just needed to know. [00:07:05] Speaker B: I know. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Wait. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. It was one of those allergic things. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Where you're like, joe. [00:07:11] Speaker B: I was like, something. Something's happening to me. He's like, what? You're fine. I was like, no. [00:07:15] Speaker A: You're kidding. No. I got hot. [00:07:18] Speaker B: I broke out in hives all over. I. I was gonna. I was gonna go to the hospital. Death by cum shot. [00:07:25] Speaker A: That has to be a joke. You have to be lying. Almost no way has it ever happened so. [00:07:31] Speaker B: It happened one time before. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Did you know he was taking amoxicillin? [00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah, but, like, I don't think. I didn't think about it. [00:07:36] Speaker A: I mean, same. [00:07:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, would you think about that? No, I would never think about that. [00:07:39] Speaker A: Wow. It passes through. [00:07:41] Speaker B: It passes through. So I just want to be informative to any mom out there. Allergic to piss. [00:07:45] Speaker A: That is the epic. That is epic. [00:07:49] Speaker B: I can't. But I'm alive and I'm here to tell the story. [00:07:51] Speaker A: You didn't even tell me. [00:07:52] Speaker B: I wanted to see. [00:07:53] Speaker A: You were gatekeeping. Your cum shot in your mouth that brought you into epilepsy. What is it called? [00:08:00] Speaker B: Echo. Epilepsy. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Epileptic. Epileptic. [00:08:05] Speaker B: Throat closing, hives, sweating, dying. [00:08:11] Speaker A: That is so bad. And were all your kids sleeping? I'm freaking out. [00:08:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:16] Speaker A: Did you tell your mom this? No. [00:08:17] Speaker B: She's going to hear it now. [00:08:18] Speaker A: She's going to freak out. [00:08:20] Speaker B: I didn't tell her because I knew I was going to say it here. And I also didn't tell her because she would probably say, my throat's full of it. I think I'm, like, sweating. Thank you. [00:08:27] Speaker A: So did you. Benadryl worked. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Benil worked. It worked right away. Thank God. Yeah. [00:08:31] Speaker A: And then you went to bed. Wait, was I on the phone with you that night? [00:08:34] Speaker B: Turned over, went to bed. I know. [00:08:36] Speaker A: I need everybody to listen to that story. [00:08:38] Speaker B: I know. It's. It's a good one. And I really, really can't make that up. I need a drink. I'm. Wait. I'm. [00:08:45] Speaker A: I can't. We can't. We can't proceed. We have. Let's just talk about this more. [00:08:49] Speaker B: I know. [00:08:50] Speaker A: No. [00:08:54] Speaker B: Scheduling. [00:08:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:08:57] Speaker B: I know. Story. [00:08:58] Speaker A: I'm happy you're okay. [00:08:59] Speaker B: I know. [00:09:00] Speaker A: I went to the hospital. No. [00:09:01] Speaker B: If I went to the hospital, if I, like, imagine my tombstone saying, emily, rest in peace, death. Bye. [00:09:06] Speaker A: See? [00:09:07] Speaker B: I'm shot. Honestly, that's an epic way to die. [00:09:11] Speaker A: You would love everything about that. You would love that to be your story. [00:09:14] Speaker B: I would, but I'm not ready to go yet. [00:09:16] Speaker A: No. [00:09:16] Speaker B: So maybe I'll like, when I'm 99. [00:09:18] Speaker A: How about Joe? [00:09:18] Speaker B: I'm shotso. [00:09:20] Speaker A: That's not okay. [00:09:21] Speaker B: I know. How do you like pedicillin? Amoxicillin? Any selling semen? Selling? No, selling. Our producer's crying. [00:09:27] Speaker A: Hey, did you know about this? [00:09:30] Speaker B: I told nobody. [00:09:31] Speaker A: You told nobody? I'm a joke. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Okay. [00:09:33] Speaker A: All right. We have to move on because that's crazy. [00:09:35] Speaker B: We're moving on. [00:09:36] Speaker A: I have so much more to think. [00:09:37] Speaker B: About it for another second. Okay, rewind. I mean, fast forward. [00:09:41] Speaker A: I'll never get that out of my head. [00:09:43] Speaker B: I know. You should have saw that. Me, I don't mind. [00:09:45] Speaker A: I'm picturing everything. Okay, hold on. Okay. Okay, let's just go into our first topic. I just see, like, see going into your mouth and you, like, closing. Okay, I have to stop. Anyway, so we're gonna go into schedules. I feel like this is a huge topic anytime I'm even talking to family members, friends, or even strangers, it's like, how many times a day are they napping now? Like, what's your schedule? How long do they nap for? I feel like it all involves the schedule. Yes, and I'm definitely more of the scheduled mom and. Yeah, and you're definitely more the laid back. [00:10:21] Speaker B: Go with the flow. [00:10:22] Speaker A: Chaos, chaos. [00:10:23] Speaker B: Absolute chaos. [00:10:25] Speaker A: Get up at 4 o'clock in the morning and don't understand why, but it's because you don't have a schedule. [00:10:28] Speaker B: I need a schedule. [00:10:29] Speaker A: So how am I supposed to get through this? [00:10:30] Speaker B: I'm sorry. I should have waited till the end. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:35] Speaker B: I was gonna wait for mom confessions, but, like, I needed to tell that is. No, it needed to be from my mouth to. [00:10:41] Speaker A: Why do you have to say mouth now? All right, I'm over. Three, two, one, go. Okay, so let's first define. Define the calendar queen. [00:10:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:53] Speaker A: You to the chaos commander. [00:10:55] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, that's cute. [00:10:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:57] Speaker B: Good. Did you just think of that? [00:10:58] Speaker A: Kinda. And I kind of was shocked. [00:11:01] Speaker B: The calendar queen. So you have the cozy calendar, right? [00:11:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:04] Speaker B: And I don't even know what that is, but if you guys. Her and her husband always are like, is it in the cozy if it's not in the cozy? It didn't happen. It's not happening. It's never happening. Put it in the cozy. [00:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:12] Speaker A: And my life's in cozy. My husband's life's in cozy. My son's life's in cozy. I need it there so I know what's happening in my week, where my husband's going to be if he's home for dinner, if he's not, what am I cooking? All that good stuff. But not even, like, let's not even start with that. Let's start with, like, the baby schedule. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:30] Speaker A: From scratch. Like, I feel like I always wanted. [00:11:33] Speaker B: From the beginning. You were very. I think you were very. [00:11:35] Speaker A: Well, like, not really. I wanted to make sure my kid can do everything we. [00:11:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:41] Speaker A: So, like, he was out with us at, like, 11 days old. I'm like, in my head, I was fighting this battle, like, okay, I can't put him on this schedule. [00:11:49] Speaker B: Yeah. But he was really hard to work around. Nap schedule. [00:11:51] Speaker A: It's hard. I mean, sometimes I don't get out of the house. I'm like, I'd rather him just. [00:11:55] Speaker B: And if you're trying to coordinate with another mom and they're on an opposite. [00:11:57] Speaker A: Nap schedule for five months. [00:11:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it was horrible. [00:12:00] Speaker A: And I also feel like naps correlates with sleeping. So I feel like. And in the beginning, my son was only napping 30 minutes. Cat naps. Like, oh, yeah. You were like, no, that was 30 minutes to the dot. [00:12:12] Speaker B: Remember that one time that I baby babysat for your brother's wedding? I slept here. It was like a vacation for me. I left my family. [00:12:17] Speaker A: It was like six weeks. [00:12:18] Speaker B: I came here. He was a baby, a newborn. And she. She printed out a laminated schedule for me. Don't forget that. I didn't follow it for. [00:12:26] Speaker A: He definitely didn't. [00:12:28] Speaker B: This kid just came out of the womb. I'm keeping mommy all night long. [00:12:31] Speaker A: You slept with him by bed? [00:12:32] Speaker B: Probably. [00:12:32] Speaker A: Yeah. So I feel like. Did you sick. You're like, he woke up in the middle of the night and had a breakfast. [00:12:37] Speaker B: No, he really did. He did wake up. [00:12:39] Speaker A: I can't. I slept with him. You're. Did he sleep in the bed with you? [00:12:45] Speaker B: No, but, like, for a lot of the night. [00:12:47] Speaker A: I knew you did that. [00:12:48] Speaker B: I mean, he was a. [00:12:49] Speaker A: Did you breastfeed him? Did you. [00:12:51] Speaker B: I was still breastfeeding. I joked with her the whole time. [00:12:54] Speaker A: Because you would do that. [00:12:55] Speaker B: I would. [00:12:55] Speaker A: I would. [00:12:56] Speaker B: But I didn't. But I would have. [00:12:59] Speaker A: Oh, funny. [00:13:00] Speaker B: But I didn't. Bye. My milk's clean. I'm organic. [00:13:04] Speaker A: I'm not even gonna go there with you. I would have a talk with you after this. I don't have time right now anyway. So in my head, I was fighting this battle, like, I don't want him on a schedule. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Right. [00:13:12] Speaker A: But I know it's going to help. But I also don't sleep train. And I'm not about to sleep train life. So, like, what am I going to do here? [00:13:17] Speaker B: So in the beginning, that's interesting to me that you do not sleep train. [00:13:21] Speaker A: I know. [00:13:21] Speaker B: And you. So there's a lot of things that she's like kind of a walking contradiction. A lot of the times I say. [00:13:27] Speaker A: A lot of things that don't make sense. [00:13:28] Speaker B: No, but you just don't like to hear your baby cry. Like, you just don't. [00:13:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I just physically crying it out. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is fine. [00:13:33] Speaker A: No, Crying it out when he's trained. [00:13:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:35] Speaker A: How would I ever do that? [00:13:36] Speaker B: Forget it. Rocco screams, mommy, come cuddle me. [00:13:39] Speaker A: No. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:41] Speaker A: In the crib with him. [00:13:42] Speaker B: I let him scream. [00:13:43] Speaker A: You definitely do. I feel like I was fighting this battle. I don't know if I want to do this. And then I follow this mom on Instagram. I knew I should have looked. It's so. I'm so bad. [00:13:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:54] Speaker A: It's. Oh, taking care of babies. [00:13:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:13:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Taking care of babies. Does sleep training. Yeah. [00:13:59] Speaker A: But she also talks about catnaps and what to do and this and that. So I followed her religiously and I kind of. She. She talks about everything. [00:14:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:07] Speaker A: But under the sun, a lot of. [00:14:08] Speaker B: Moms pay for this. Her sleep training. Like it's. [00:14:10] Speaker A: Oh, really? No, I didn't do any of that. So I just talked about, like, how to get on a schedule. Like you could follow this. So I printed out her schedule. That's what I gave you that one time. And I followed it. And it was hard because I was always like, no. Half hour off, 45 minutes off. His nap. Didn't reach where I wanted to, but it worked. [00:14:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:29] Speaker A: I eventually got there without even realizing it. And he was on a schedule. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:33] Speaker A: And it was fabulous. And I'm like, guy in a backwards hat is just like, stop. [00:14:37] Speaker B: There's nothing hotter. [00:14:38] Speaker A: And it's like not on his head fully. It's like half up. [00:14:40] Speaker B: God, she's ovulating. [00:14:43] Speaker A: No. I can't even take it right now. Okay. [00:14:46] Speaker B: Not this. Okay, keep going. [00:14:48] Speaker A: And he got on the schedule. And I was like, oh, my God. Schedules are the thing. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz you. You can actually have freedom. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, oh, my God. And then his. Like she said it would. His naps grew longer. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:59] Speaker A: And I was like, oh, my God. And then this is what I'm going to do at this time. This is what I'm going to do at this time while he's napping, while he's up. And we got on a schedule and it took some time, but I love it. [00:15:09] Speaker B: Right. [00:15:10] Speaker A: And I'm not super strict like someone I know. [00:15:14] Speaker B: I know everyone, you know, So a. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Lot of moms I talk to are very strict with schedules. Like my kid goes to bed at 6:00. We can't go out past that. [00:15:25] Speaker B: No. [00:15:25] Speaker A: We can't have dinner later than that. We're not like that. We have him out until 9:00 at night. We don't really care. And he still sleeps through the night. So there's some lenience to it. But it makes me feel more wholesome to have him. Yeah. And it took some time. Honestly, I feel like not until he was like seven, eight months he was on this. I made her schedule into my own schedule. [00:15:44] Speaker B: Right. [00:15:45] Speaker A: And again I. Sometimes he goes down at 7:30, sometimes he goes down at 8:30. Sometimes. [00:15:50] Speaker B: I texted you last night and he. [00:15:51] Speaker A: Was not done yet. [00:15:51] Speaker B: Can we talk mom o'clock? [00:15:53] Speaker A: No, he's on my lap. Yeah. So sometimes it doesn't go down till 9, 9:30. Because sometimes we go out to eat and I don't ever say no. So if my friends or family are like, we're going to go out at 7 and we're out until 9, like, I'm like, we can't go. I don't do any of that. And I feel like that's. Yeah. That's where my lenience comes in a little bit. But the schedule is definitely a thing in my household. And sometimes I'm like, he's still napping. We can't go until 1. Like I still kind of have that moment. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:19] Speaker A: But sometimes I force. [00:16:20] Speaker B: I feel like you have to. Because if you mess up a nap. [00:16:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:23] Speaker B: And you don't really have a plan. Like plans. Yeah. You ruin your whole day. [00:16:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:16:27] Speaker B: They're cranky, you're cranky. [00:16:29] Speaker A: Everybody downside of schedules, it's like you can't do anything outside of your schedule. That's why I'm a little bit more lenient because I can't have a cranky baby when I want to go out. [00:16:38] Speaker B: Right. So yesterday, will you like adjust it so like, you know that he's taking his nap in the car? If you're driving like 45 minutes? [00:16:45] Speaker A: I don't even think about that. I probably type A would never. But I. I just don't even think. I just. Yeah, I feel like he does get that cranky and you're like, oh my God, this is supposed to be his nap time. Like the other day we went to story time at his nap hour and we were totally fine. [00:17:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:02] Speaker A: But you could tell he wasn't his best self because of he was missing his nap. But I've pushed his nap and like sometimes it goes down at like 9, 9:30, but sometimes he doesn't go down till noon. So like I, whatever time of the day it is, I still get that nap. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Right? [00:17:17] Speaker A: It just depends what I'm doing. Because I had a mom reach out to me and she was like, I just like can't figure out this whole schedule thing. I don't know how to like get myself together and like get out of the house. Like meet my sister at the zoo. [00:17:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:28] Speaker A: I'm like, I understand that because sometimes now I can't even get out of the house. [00:17:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:32] Speaker A: But once you follow this schedule and then make it your own because you don't have to like 7am, 8am, 9am. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Like not three people. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Whenever you follow the schedule and make it your own, then you, if it doesn't match up with your friend, your family, your sister, your brother, whatever, it's fine. Like just focus on what makes you feel good, what makes you feel like, okay, now I could shower and get myself ready and that makes me feel good. Or now I can make my son's lunch before he wakes up. If you want to do that while he's napping, like you'll get into the groove. And I feel like she was just like, I need to figure out. And I refer to taking care of babies. And just if you like this, like if your daughter or son takes this short of nap or long, like follow she now you should feed him then. Or my son naps 30 minutes now you should feed him then. But it is hard sometimes to get to the house. Like for instance, my sister in law, my husband's sister, she likes to get out of the house. Like her go go go is in the morning. So she gets home to nap and she naps and then we're ready for dinner in bed. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:31] Speaker A: Whereas me, my son, we do our morning routine, he goes down early. I don't start my day until 1pm, right. Go out and then I don't care. Whatever happens in the afternoon, that doesn't bother me. Where she's like 6:00 bedtime, no if, ands or but. So we have to, we have this chunk of time to like do our thing. Whereas me, I'm like, okay, I Can start my day at noon 1. And then I could do whatever I want the rest of the day. If he goes down, he does. If he doesn't, my morning is like my strict schedule. [00:18:55] Speaker B: I feel like, yeah, I. I have no schedule. [00:18:57] Speaker A: I. I mean, we just talk about it. Because in the beginning you did though, when you had. [00:19:01] Speaker B: When I had one kid, I think I was a lot more structured and I wanted to be, or I thought I wanted to be that mom. That was a little more Type A. But it's just not in me. [00:19:10] Speaker A: It's just. [00:19:11] Speaker B: I'm just not cut out for that. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, you don't even care. [00:19:16] Speaker B: But the thing is that, yeah, like, I. My kids will wake up and then. [00:19:19] Speaker A: Like, doesn't bother you? Yeah, like, well, like, if I don't shower. Yeah, like, my day is ruined. [00:19:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, no, like, that doesn't bother nothing. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Not shower. But that's a good shower. Get ready. I get myself ready. Like, look in the mirror and be like, okay, I look fine today. [00:19:31] Speaker B: I don't do that. [00:19:32] Speaker A: It doesn't bother you though? [00:19:33] Speaker B: No, it's fine. I mean, eventually I'll shower maybe three days. [00:19:37] Speaker A: Like before she got out, I was like, please wash your face. [00:19:40] Speaker B: I text her last night and go, I just exfoliated. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Like, I'm so proud of you. I love that for you. But I mean, now, like, I feel like, are you tortured? [00:19:48] Speaker B: I. I'm sure someone might look at it as I'm being made. [00:19:52] Speaker A: I look directly at you and say that. [00:19:53] Speaker B: But I think like, I just thrive off of the chaos. Like, let my CO go through your day. Okay, wake up at 4:30. My one time will come in my bed. My oldest son will come in my bed. He'll lay there, maybe we'll put on the TV, iPad, whatever. And my youngest will wake up. My middle child sleeps in. Like, she'll sleep till like 7:30. [00:20:15] Speaker A: You sleep. [00:20:15] Speaker B: Thank God. We'll go downstairs. I won't. I will not go downstairs, like into the living room, kitchen until at least 6:00am Like, I just. I won't. [00:20:23] Speaker A: Yeah, don't. [00:20:25] Speaker B: It's too early. [00:20:26] Speaker A: Scary down the road. [00:20:27] Speaker B: But so, but my. Now my son, like, can. He can't tell time, but he knows time. Like, he knows like when the clock says six. So this morning actually he was like, mommy, it's 6am we can go downstairs. I'm like, okay, so we go downstairs. My kids have like three breakfasts because, yeah, he eats like cereal and he wakes up and then he said four o'clock and Then not four, but like six. And. But then when Vienna wakes up, I'll make like, pancakes or whatever. I'm actually making eggs. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Like a real breakfast. [00:20:54] Speaker B: And then my mom or will come over or somebody and bring bagels at like, nine. So we have three breakfasts. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Before even 9am but let's just talk about, like, the sleep pattern. Like, I religiously feel like, because I'm on this schedule, my son sleeps through the night. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:11] Speaker A: And he gets up at a reasonable hour. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:13] Speaker A: I mean, and I am normal. [00:21:15] Speaker B: Yeah. But so I like you, I don't let my kids stay up late. Like, I have a box. I have, like a box of time. It's not like a little window, which is like a big box. Like, my kids will never stay up past, like, 9:30. Oh, they will go to sleep. [00:21:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:28] Speaker B: Like, I'm not like that, mom. [00:21:29] Speaker A: Like, they have been up since 4, so. Yeah, I would assume so. [00:21:31] Speaker B: But, like, I also do, like, bath, bottle, bed. Like, I have. I have some routine in my chaos. [00:21:37] Speaker A: You just have, like, your routine of, like, my routine? [00:21:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, I'll feed them sometimes, hop in the bath, scrub a little. [00:21:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:45] Speaker B: But no, they do take bath. They love bath time. And bath time is, like, so great for me because I put the three of them in the bath. They play walk the door. [00:21:52] Speaker A: Walk. Lock the door, shut it behind you. [00:21:53] Speaker B: No. And that's good. And I love a clean baby because they're so cute when they're clean. [00:21:58] Speaker A: They are. [00:22:00] Speaker B: And then. [00:22:01] Speaker A: So growing, like, growing your family. Like, in the beginning, like, I. I. [00:22:05] Speaker B: Remember, like, I'd rack them in the rocking chair. We. We would read a book, and it would be like, 7:30. I did. I was definitely more routine when I had one then when I had to. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Like, were you, like, okay, he goes down. What was your schedule like when you had, like, he. What was, like, your specific. What was it like? He goes down and then you got in the shower and you got ready and then you went out for the day or. No. [00:22:24] Speaker B: So we never. [00:22:25] Speaker A: All right. [00:22:25] Speaker B: I never left the house, so I didn't really. I didn't shower for the whole year. [00:22:31] Speaker A: For 300. [00:22:32] Speaker B: I didn't get up. I didn't get dressed. I really stayed. [00:22:35] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:22:36] Speaker B: I was breastfeeding. [00:22:37] Speaker A: I feel like you're just in a bubble. The schedule was like, your house. [00:22:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:41] Speaker B: With my first and my second. They're 18 months apart, so it was just like, the same thing. And then my. My youngest are 15 months apart, so we just kind of rolled with it. [00:22:56] Speaker A: And so you never had a schedule? [00:22:58] Speaker B: No. [00:22:59] Speaker A: So when people ask you what to do, you're like, yeah, I can meet you at the. Whatever. [00:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah, like, I can meet, but, like, also, like. And my kids do not. Like Rocco and Vienna. [00:23:06] Speaker A: But what if it's not the same time every day? Like, how do you. [00:23:08] Speaker B: It's just. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Does it matter? Like, what if you got something to do? [00:23:10] Speaker B: And I. I tried to make them nap at the same time. In the beginning, I think you told. [00:23:15] Speaker A: Me your daughter went down, like, noon. She didn't wake up till, like, five. [00:23:19] Speaker B: When they fall asleep. They fall asleep. No. Yeah, she napped for, like, four hours. [00:23:22] Speaker A: So if you have a plan. [00:23:23] Speaker B: And I'll just. I guess if they're sleeping, I'll just flake out on the plan, I guess. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Or like, you don't mind them napping in the car? [00:23:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, they. [00:23:31] Speaker A: So you care about the nap? You're like, they just need their sleep for them. I care about the nap because I need the time. [00:23:36] Speaker B: You need the time to do this stuff? [00:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:39] Speaker A: See, that's not your mindset. [00:23:40] Speaker B: And that's why it's hard for me to do stuff around the house if they're not. Or, like, if they are napping. I mean, I just have another kid doing something else. So it's not like. Right. I can have all my kids. [00:23:50] Speaker A: What am I gonna do? I told you, my cousin has three boys, and they're. They all, like, all sleep at the same time. [00:23:55] Speaker B: That is, like, so structured. [00:23:56] Speaker A: I mean, but, like, think about what you can do in that time. [00:23:58] Speaker B: Oh, no. If I had all. I remember one time, like, one time, all three of mine were sleeping at the same time from, like, 12 to 3. And I was like, I can have a party right now. This is amazing. I could do the dishes. [00:24:09] Speaker A: I could like that feeling. [00:24:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it was great. [00:24:12] Speaker A: But you don't care enough. [00:24:13] Speaker B: No, I don't have it in me. It was amazing. But I just feel like you. [00:24:17] Speaker A: If someone told you, okay, this is it. You do it. You just don't even care. [00:24:20] Speaker B: No, I don't have it in me to follow through with it. [00:24:25] Speaker A: So, you know. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:24:28] Speaker A: Not every day looks the same for you at all. No, like, mine doesn't either. Like, I told what time? Like, hostel asked me, what time did you go down today? Like, sometimes I say 9:30, sometimes I say 10, sometimes I say noon. But he still does. I still know he's gonna do it. [00:24:42] Speaker B: No, I mean, I. I do. Like, Rocco used to take two days, but, like, no, I would Try to put him down at 9:30. And then like, when he. I just. I do things, like, on demand. When they seem tired, I put them in their crib. When they were hungry, I give them a bottle or a boob. Like I. I do with everything on their own. [00:24:58] Speaker A: I kind of feel that way too. [00:24:59] Speaker B: I feel like, who's fed, like, every three hours? [00:25:02] Speaker A: So I wanted to go there. I still do the hour thing in my head. Like, it's. He's been up for five hours. Oh, my God. His wake window's like three and a half, four. He's probably tired. That's when I know the key. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Like, you'll check and be like, oh, he had a bottle. [00:25:14] Speaker A: Like, he had a bottle at noon. I've done that. [00:25:16] Speaker B: I still do Vienna. Chug a bottle and be like, mommy, I want more. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't do that. I'm like, he just had a bottle. He needs to wait a little bit. [00:25:22] Speaker B: Yeah. My kids are on like 30 ounces of milk a day, literally. [00:25:24] Speaker A: And you're like, my daughter shits her pants every day and won. [00:25:28] Speaker B: She poops a lot. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Yeah, she does. Solid poops. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Solid, Solid. [00:25:32] Speaker A: But no, I feel. I still am like, okay, he had a bottle at 11. Okay, so he'll have another one. Like 2:30. So I'm gonna run to the store. I wanna. I don't need to bring a bottle. [00:25:40] Speaker B: And me, I'll bring three bottles cooler. Just because they might want another one. [00:25:44] Speaker A: Yeah, like, I don't do that. I won't bring one if it's on his bottle time, but I'll bring one if it is different. Yeah, see, like, that can't do. [00:25:53] Speaker B: Yeah. So wait. Oh, we're still. We're not. That's type A. Type D. Yeah, we'll get there. [00:25:56] Speaker A: We're talking about that too. [00:25:57] Speaker B: But just the scheduling. Even like with. I don't know what else. Do you. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Have you ever followed anybody like a mom that, like, you were like, oh, this is interesting. I kind of want to try this. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Like, I follow. I follow daycare babies. I follow a bunch of. I've had, well, sleep training, so I did sleep train, so I follow sleep training. [00:26:12] Speaker A: So you put your kids in their crib and you walk out the door? [00:26:15] Speaker B: Yes. [00:26:15] Speaker A: I can't. I don't get it. [00:26:17] Speaker B: It was hard. It was so hard. I had to put headphones on because I couldn't hear the screaming. It was really hard for me. [00:26:22] Speaker A: And how long did it take for them to go down? Do they actually go down? [00:26:25] Speaker B: Yes, they actually go down. [00:26:26] Speaker A: No, I don't believe it. [00:26:27] Speaker B: No, I. I have three and I did it. And they do go down. And it doesn't take that long. [00:26:32] Speaker A: Like, I did it one time. [00:26:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:35] Speaker A: And it took 20 minutes and he actually went down. This was like seven, eight months. [00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:39] Speaker A: And they will go down. I try. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:42] Speaker A: I really do. Maybe I go in too soon. But, like, how do you. I saw a woman on a podcast once, and an older woman, a doctor, this is so bad that I don't know her name. [00:26:52] Speaker B: We don't know names. [00:26:53] Speaker A: We don't know facts. And she was like, do not sleep train your child before two years old. It is traumatizing to them. And I'm not, you know me. I don't even talk like, that's crazy. I don't talk like this. I really don't. You know that I. But she was like, but this I believe with you because I studied psychology, so, like, I kind of believe in all this psycho. You hoe. So did I. I just believe, like, it truly is like, he's screaming his head off. Mama, mama, mama. And I'm not coming. So he thinks I'm never gonna be there. [00:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I mean, I, I age. [00:27:24] Speaker A: It's like they're developing. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:26] Speaker A: If he was 14, screaming, or 10 years old, screaming, mom. [00:27:29] Speaker B: It is a lot harder. I've done. I've recently, I even re sleep trained Joey at 2 years old. Actually, I did it. I bought the Taking Care of babies package. I re sleep trained. I had to do the whole magic chair thing, you know what, the magic. Yeah, I did all that. It was so much harder to do it when he's older because he, you know, then he's like, why isn't mom coming? Like, I want my mom. I'm scared that he'll make up a million excuses like, why aren't I coming? That's scarier. When a baby is just crying. He could just be crying because he's crying like he doesn't really need you. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Even though I don't believe that. [00:28:02] Speaker B: All right. [00:28:02] Speaker A: Yeah, like, I feel what you're saying. That's actually true. I'm not saying, like, yeah, false. [00:28:08] Speaker B: I really hard time with it too, because I don't let my kids cry. I don't like when they cry. [00:28:12] Speaker A: I mean, you literally give them a bottle of milk. I know they just bottle. [00:28:15] Speaker B: But for sleep training, I did it. [00:28:17] Speaker A: But your kids still wake up at 4:00am like, well, Joey. [00:28:19] Speaker B: Joey's just like a different, different breed. Sorry. [00:28:22] Speaker A: So, yeah, I just push you at 4:00am with all your kids. It's not like that. [00:28:25] Speaker B: No, no, it's not. It sounds worse than it is, but. And like he doesn't. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Your bed and you sleep and he's. [00:28:29] Speaker B: Snuggle and I sleep. But it's. It is a problem. Like he should just for his brain's sake. He shouldn't. [00:28:34] Speaker A: Yeah, for his own. Not even you. You're used to his own development. But back to the sleep training thing. I don't know. Like, I always think about it and I talk about it a lot, but. [00:28:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Also, Gio has been like a really good sleeper. [00:28:44] Speaker A: Yeah. That's why I don't sleep. [00:28:46] Speaker B: I think you would maybe feel differently if he wasn't. If he wasn't. He'd. He'd wake up at 1am, 2am and then you'd have to do what you do. Rock. Whatever. [00:28:53] Speaker A: He wakes up at like 3, 4 and screaming, Mama. But then he goes back down. I do. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Don't get him. [00:28:58] Speaker A: So sometimes I give it like three to five minutes. [00:29:02] Speaker B: That's a long time. Yeah, I know. One time I let Joey cry for 45 minutes. I. I had to like, leave the house. I actually did leave the house. I called Jeannie over. [00:29:10] Speaker A: I can't do that. Yeah, 45 minutes M of them when we were. You really think them screaming for 45 minutes that they want their mom, that that's okay for them to go back down to sleep after they just went through that trauma? [00:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah, he was fine. He lived. [00:29:24] Speaker A: I know it works. I definitely know it work. I mean, no, it's. [00:29:27] Speaker B: It's definitely hard. [00:29:28] Speaker A: You just put your kid in and you shut the door. Like sometimes I'm rocking him for like 30 minutes. I still rock my kid. [00:29:33] Speaker B: When Joey. When I had to resleep train and he was 2, I had to hold the door shut. He was at the door because he wasn't in the crib anymore. It was terrible. It was absolutely terrible. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Why did you have to re. Sleep train? [00:29:42] Speaker B: Because he would. He was climbing out of his over 50 times a night. Joe and I counted it. One time he was just hopping over, coming in our bed, hopping over, coming in our bed. He had bruises on his ribs from leaning over. And that's when we switched him out of the crib 50 times. [00:29:58] Speaker A: I wonder how often how common that is. How old was he hopping out of a crib? [00:30:02] Speaker B: He was like, Gio's age. Yeah, probably like. Probably like 18 months. [00:30:06] Speaker A: I'm not ready for that. Yeah, that's like. [00:30:08] Speaker B: Like. I can't picture Rocco doing. [00:30:09] Speaker A: How do you sleep. [00:30:10] Speaker B: It was terrible. That's why I had to re. Sleep train and we had to do the whole magic chair. The magic chair we had for like nine months. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember. I mean, like, I just, I don't know. I know it works. I know. But again, like, I don't have any problems with him in his sleep or his nap. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Yes, I think. [00:30:26] Speaker A: But the only problem I do now it's starting to become annoying to rock him. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Well, can other people put him down? Yeah, like if I was babysitting for the night, he would let me rock him. [00:30:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:36] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's right. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:39] Speaker A: My mom puts him down, My husband put him down. My mother in law puts him down. [00:30:42] Speaker B: That's another. My kids don't let like anyone else put them down. [00:30:45] Speaker A: Yeah, we're not there yet, but he definitely knows Mama. [00:30:48] Speaker B: Yeah, like, oh, yeah, like when you're doing it. [00:30:50] Speaker A: Yeah, when I'm, When I. Yesterday I walked out the door to go to Pilates, he was screaming, mama. Thank God. I was like getting in my car because I probably would have came back. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I know it works, but I feel like I probably should have done it already because it would have been a little bit easier. [00:31:02] Speaker B: But I feel like you don't. You didn't really need to do it. He's just a good sleeper. [00:31:05] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:31:06] Speaker B: So you lucked out in that way. Yeah. [00:31:07] Speaker A: But the rocking is getting a little bit much sometimes. Remember when we were trying to record and I was rocking for 45 minutes? [00:31:13] Speaker B: Yeah, because you actually rock him to sleep. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Like I don't physically like sit there. [00:31:17] Speaker B: But like probably once you're putting him back down, he's. His eyes are closed, Correct? [00:31:22] Speaker A: Oh, no. I cannot put him in his crib with his eyes open. [00:31:24] Speaker B: Well, that's the whole point of sleep training because you could just plop them in and I know they sell soothe, but whatever. [00:31:32] Speaker A: If he was a different baby and he wasn't. [00:31:34] Speaker B: Yeah, you might want to do it. [00:31:36] Speaker A: I probably have be fed up and do it, but I don't know, I'm just not, I'm not a believer in it. But I know for myself, I know it's like a thing and it works. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:43] Speaker A: Sometimes I go back and forth. I'm like, sometimes my husband like just leave them and I'm like, I can't screaming like that. [00:31:50] Speaker B: I know it's really, it's hard. [00:31:52] Speaker A: So anyway, I'm happy for you, but you should probably figure that 4am thing out for his own sake. [00:31:58] Speaker B: No, yeah, it's really all right. Anyhow. Oh wait, let's get a cheer. My girl is drinking. [00:32:03] Speaker A: I haven't had wine all. Yeah, what am I drinking, hun? [00:32:07] Speaker B: Is it the, you know they have a wine cellar in their basement and they have the wines labeled. They have. If it's a really expensive wine, it's like two pink stickers. [00:32:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:16] Speaker B: And I just want to stick. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Well, it's for me because I went through so many bottles one time when he was away and he got so mad at me and I didn't know. [00:32:24] Speaker B: Oh, and she drank like the most expensive one. [00:32:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:26] Speaker B: And he was like, it's the pink. Double pink. [00:32:28] Speaker A: Don't drink that. This is for a company. This is for celebrates. I'm like, all right, just give me the wine. [00:32:33] Speaker B: So when I come over I'm like, I'm worth the pink. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Give me the double pink. The double pink. Anyway, so yeah, I feel like pros and cons. I mean, I think there's more pros to schedules. And you probably don't think that. [00:32:43] Speaker B: No, I, I might think that but I just, I don't have it in me. [00:32:47] Speaker A: And that's okay. [00:32:48] Speaker B: It's fine. And I like my kids are. [00:32:50] Speaker A: It's funny because you don't not do things though. That's the thing. [00:32:53] Speaker B: No, yeah, like I will not. Yeah. Like I'll still, I'll still do everything. I do understand why people will sacrifice like not doing something for a nap or, or the other way around just because you, if you're too structured. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Like it's really hard to make plans around your nap. [00:33:09] Speaker A: I feel like that about a lot of people. Like we can't, if we go out with some people, we can't go out past a certain time. I'm not on that. Wait. [00:33:17] Speaker B: No, you're going along with that Is type A versus type B. Read the definition of a type A mom and then I'll do type A. [00:33:25] Speaker A: All right, Type A mom. Highly organized and structured, ask oriented and punctual. [00:33:30] Speaker B: You're not punctual. Type A, but not punctual. I am type B, so punctual. [00:33:34] Speaker A: It's like crazy. [00:33:35] Speaker B: I, I, so I have this thing, I cannot be late. [00:33:38] Speaker A: You're never so nervous with three kids. And then she showed up like, how did you get. [00:33:42] Speaker B: I will, I will start getting them ready at 6:00am to get to a 12:00. [00:33:46] Speaker A: Literally. You're always. [00:33:48] Speaker B: You know what? I have this like phobia. Like when we have a music class or something, like walking in late. I think it stems from not wanting people to stare at me. Even in college. In college, like if I was late for a lecture, like I just wouldn't go. It wasn't like better late than never. It was never okay because you can't. [00:34:01] Speaker A: Walk in, I can't look at you. It is a weir feeling, even for me. [00:34:03] Speaker B: I don't like it. I don't want to be judged that way. I. I like to. On time. Yeah. [00:34:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Especially me calling in with three kids back on my back and my hair in a messy button. [00:34:14] Speaker A: Definitely. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So I don't like to be late. [00:34:16] Speaker A: Well, that's good though. Patient. [00:34:17] Speaker B: Yeah. But you should see me trying to get everybody together. [00:34:20] Speaker A: I wish I did. Because when you get somewhere, I don't understand. [00:34:23] Speaker B: It's crazy. [00:34:24] Speaker A: I'm like, how did you get here? Dressed, Food. Packed it. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Honestly, it took, it took like I remember when I just. When I had three under three. They were all very small. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:33] Speaker B: I remember thinking I'm never going to be able to leave the house again. Like, how am I? [00:34:38] Speaker A: You remember? [00:34:38] Speaker B: Yes. I remember feeling like that for a little. Like I don't think I'm ever going to be able to get my 3 year old in the car seat and then my 1 year old in the car seat and then my newborn in the car seat. Like how, how can I even do. [00:34:49] Speaker A: Leave one in the house? [00:34:50] Speaker B: Yeah, Like I figured it out. Like now I have it to. [00:34:53] Speaker A: And they probably like it. [00:34:54] Speaker B: What I do is I bring them. I bring all three out at the same time. I have. This is a mom hack. Now that I. Joey gets it. My oldest gets in the back, get himself. [00:35:03] Speaker A: What did you do when he couldn't get himself. [00:35:05] Speaker B: I have. Well, I still have to buckle him but he. I would have to climb in. No, sorry. I'd get the newborn in the car seat first, hold the uppababy thing, put that in so he's strapped. He's fine. Then I'd get Vienna in the other seat and my oldest would climb and get in so it'd be. It'll be youngest, middle oldest. Then I. Nowadays I just have them on the seat. They're locked in. I go back in the house, I gather all my stuff. I try to straighten up for like two minutes just to like straighten so I don't walk into an absolute disaster and I know that they're safe in the car. I lock the door and that way it's not chaos. It's just like a little. It's a little one minute time. [00:35:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Just like quickly like, turn the TV off, try to like straighten up for one second, Pick the remote off the floor. Yeah. [00:35:50] Speaker A: I meant to ask you, what kind of wine am I drinking? Good. Anyway, that's a good mom hack. I like that. [00:35:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:55] Speaker A: See, you're organized. [00:35:59] Speaker B: People are like, she leaves her kids in the car. [00:36:01] Speaker A: I probably walk in your house to fucking zoo. And you're like, I picked up the remote. [00:36:05] Speaker B: What else? [00:36:05] Speaker A: For Tay Bay, mom so likes routine schedules and control plans, activities, meals, milestones in advance. May put pressure on herself and sometimes others to meet high standards. Perceived as super moms. [00:36:19] Speaker B: So the like, put a pressure on yourself. Like, I have no pressure on myself. [00:36:23] Speaker A: I have so much. [00:36:23] Speaker B: I have the lowest standard for myself. And if I get out of the house, maybe with a shower, like, I'm happy. So that's why I feel like, yeah, like, yeah, I have zero pressure. Cuz I. My standard is very low. [00:36:35] Speaker A: You're like, I left the house today with one shoe on. [00:36:38] Speaker B: And honestly, I feel accomplished. If I do that, good for you. Like, if I. If one of my kids has a matching sock, I am never do so. [00:36:46] Speaker A: They absolutely never do. But I feel in the beginning I was like so hard on myself. I felt like worthless if I didn't get out of the house. [00:36:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Or like, remember I told you you just had to do it. [00:36:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:00] Speaker B: I was like, just, just get out. [00:37:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:02] Speaker B: Do one thing. [00:37:03] Speaker A: And now the small things. Like yesterday I had like yesterday I went to Barnes and Noble. [00:37:10] Speaker B: What? Wait, Barnes and Noble still exists? Yeah, Barnes and Noble. The bookstore. [00:37:15] Speaker A: The bookstore. I went to Barnes and Noble. I took my son and did you. [00:37:20] Speaker B: Bring your mocha latte, Oatmeal? [00:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah, my Whole Foods. And we shopped around. People in stores think I'm the nicest, sweetest mother they've ever met. Because I'm just like, I just feel so good when I'm like bopping around with my kid. And I bought a book for my mom for Mother's Day because she's going to Italy, so I wanted to read a book on the plane. [00:37:39] Speaker B: Whoa. [00:37:39] Speaker A: And then I bought my mother in law some things for Mother's Day as well. I'm a mother. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Did you buy me something? [00:37:45] Speaker A: Nothing. And I just like love Barnes and Noble. I forgot. And I bought like all chotchky stuff, like notebooks. I bought myself like a planner to try something. [00:37:53] Speaker B: I would never do this shit. [00:37:54] Speaker A: So that made me feel so good. And we went to Target and what did I get? Oh, I tried the new Khloe Kardashian popcorn. So we started to do that. And, I mean, I just, like, I did other things. I can think, but I just, like, those would be, like, such a norm, like, stupid thing for me to do. And now it's like, I feel so accomplished to do those things. [00:38:17] Speaker B: That's great. [00:38:17] Speaker A: But to your point is why I'm saying this because, like, those small things make me feel accomplished, too. Because you just. It takes a lot to get out of the house. Like, when you have 1, 2, 3, 4 kids, whatever the case may be, it's. Don't feel pressure to leave the house. I told my friend who was venting to me the other day. I'm like, don't feel like you have to leave the house every day. No. People put pressure on going to music class and going to the zoo and doing all these things. Like, you don't have to. [00:38:38] Speaker B: You can come to. [00:38:39] Speaker A: I feel. Not that you on purpose made me feel pressured to go do things. [00:38:43] Speaker B: Never. [00:38:43] Speaker A: You never did. This was all in my own head. But seeing you do all these things with your kids made me feel like. [00:38:49] Speaker B: I should be doing it. [00:38:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's like, the whole mom comparison thing. I feel like I was like, am I okay that I can't do this right now? But now it's, like, so much easier to do. [00:38:58] Speaker B: I feel like moms, I. I know. It's just. It's. It's in our nature to compare, but, like, we just have to. We can compare without judging. [00:39:04] Speaker A: I feel like we do that. [00:39:06] Speaker B: Yeah, we do that. But, like, I feel like just in general, like, moms are just. There are judgy moms out there. Like, I'm sure a million moms are judging. [00:39:13] Speaker A: You have a conversation. [00:39:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but just stop judging. It's not high school. We're all trying to mom school. [00:39:20] Speaker A: You don't know what goes on behind closed doors at all. That's why I'm so open to talking with people and just hearing, like, asking the question rather than saying what I do. Because not only do I want to know what you do and what works for you and what doesn't work for you, I want to feel like you're struggling, too, and you have good days and you have bad days. Like, that's what moms want to hear. They don't want to hear that you fucking sleep train your fucking kid at whatever time, and they go to bed and they sleep through the night and whatever. [00:39:44] Speaker B: I was actually at the pickup line yesterday, and a mom was picking up her kid and said, honey, can you just go to the bathroom? Inside really quick. We're going to the park. There's no bathroom there. And he was about to have an epic tantrum. And she was like, okay, fine. She didn't want to deal with the tantrum. So she's walking out, and under her breath, she's like, I guess you're going in the water bottle again. [00:40:02] Speaker A: She's like, I love that. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Me too. Me too. See? [00:40:05] Speaker A: Like, it's so funny because I love when you laugh. K. So fun. [00:40:09] Speaker B: I loved that she said that. I was like, oh, my kids go on water bottles all the time. Maybe like, a pot in the back of the. [00:40:14] Speaker A: And it's probably still there. Is it? I'm freaking out. Never set my foot in your car. [00:40:22] Speaker B: You're so rude. [00:40:23] Speaker A: I'm kidding. [00:40:25] Speaker B: My. My car is a trash. [00:40:27] Speaker A: Well, so is mine. And a type A would never. So I'm definitely. Let's get into, like, what we feel like we are. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Okay. [00:40:34] Speaker A: And what you think I am. [00:40:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:35] Speaker A: Because you look at me like, type a galore. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Type A, Type A. Like, screaming type A to me. But there are some things about you that a type A mom would never do. [00:40:45] Speaker A: Would never. [00:40:46] Speaker B: Like, just one time. It was the first time. I think she was taking Gio to the doctor. He was a newborn, and she completely forgot her diaper bag. [00:40:53] Speaker A: I'd ask the doctor for a diaper and a wipe. [00:40:54] Speaker B: A type A mom would never. They have to be structured and planned. Never. [00:40:57] Speaker A: A type A would never. My mom was like, are you serious? [00:41:00] Speaker B: That was crazy of you. [00:41:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:02] Speaker B: And I would do that in a heartbeat. [00:41:03] Speaker A: No, in a heartbeat. You do it on purpose. [00:41:05] Speaker B: It is freeing. Not like not having a diaper bag. [00:41:07] Speaker A: Sometimes I go to the store without any. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Feel free. [00:41:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:09] Speaker B: I feel like. [00:41:10] Speaker A: Can't wait for those. [00:41:11] Speaker B: I could live. [00:41:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:12] Speaker B: Sometimes we. The base B E I S is the best backpack ever. And there's, like, a little pouch. [00:41:20] Speaker A: Do you just. Sometimes I take the pouch off and. [00:41:23] Speaker B: I wrap it around like a lululemon pouch, and I'm like, yeah, I got notes here. [00:41:27] Speaker A: I got you on that bag. Isn't it the best bag? I remember we were sitting in the nursery, and I was like, I need this bag. [00:41:32] Speaker B: It's big. [00:41:33] Speaker A: I love it. [00:41:33] Speaker B: It's great. [00:41:34] Speaker A: There's insulation, so you put your cold milk in it. [00:41:37] Speaker B: And she didn't know. [00:41:38] Speaker A: I didn't know that. She actually told me that part. And meanwhile, I got her on the back, and there's so many pockets. And that fanny package. I never used it yet, but we're. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Gonna have A whole episode on, like, mom stuff. We love and mom stuff. [00:41:47] Speaker A: And you're gonna be good at that because you have more kids. Yeah, but that. What's another thing I did that was, like, so not type A of me. [00:41:53] Speaker B: You walked out of the house without your keys and your phone, going into. [00:41:57] Speaker A: Your car, and I was driving away. [00:41:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:59] Speaker A: Type A would never. [00:42:00] Speaker B: No. [00:42:00] Speaker A: Yeah. My mom was here the other day. She was like. She used to, like, roll her shit and pack her luggage. [00:42:05] Speaker B: I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean? She rolled. She was like, yeah, she used to roll her stuff in a ball. [00:42:09] Speaker A: But I used, like. And I was like, improperly. [00:42:11] Speaker B: It would do that. I feel like she is just. [00:42:13] Speaker A: I know. Type I would never. So I feel like I have a mixture in me. I'm very, like, organized. Plan. Like, My husband says this all the time. Like, she needs a plan. She's. Know what you're doing. I might not follow it. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:23] Speaker A: But I just need to know. I wonder if, like, it's a thing, like. [00:42:25] Speaker B: And what's. Your husband is distracting me with his backwards hat. [00:42:28] Speaker A: I know. [00:42:29] Speaker B: I'm so into a backwards hat. Not your husband. [00:42:32] Speaker A: I'm into your husband's backwards. [00:42:35] Speaker B: If you could have. [00:42:37] Speaker A: Do you think your husband likes the fact that I like him? [00:42:39] Speaker B: Yeah, he thrives off of it. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Cool. [00:42:42] Speaker B: Do you think your husband cares if I like him? [00:42:44] Speaker A: You definitely don't. [00:42:45] Speaker B: What do you mean? [00:42:46] Speaker A: Do you. [00:42:46] Speaker B: I'd. Just kidding. I would never touch him with a touch of pole. Yo. I would never. If I didn't know her, I wouldn't. With her guy. Nope, nope. [00:42:54] Speaker A: You wouldn't? No. [00:42:55] Speaker B: You would beat me up? [00:42:56] Speaker A: No, I would fist fight you. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You'd slash my tire. [00:42:59] Speaker A: You'd be like, no, I wouldn't slash. [00:43:00] Speaker B: I would hurt me. [00:43:02] Speaker A: Like, you wouldn't have a career. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Okay. What kind of. Is your husband? Type A or type B? [00:43:08] Speaker A: He's a hybrid. Like his car. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Oh, he's got one of those? [00:43:13] Speaker A: No, he doesn't even have hybrid, which I just found out about the other day. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Oh, I thought. [00:43:16] Speaker A: It's full electric. [00:43:17] Speaker B: Oh, Tesla, BMW. Oh, cool. [00:43:23] Speaker A: Anyway, he's a total hybrid, and we just asked him a question earlier, and he goes, I'm becoming, like, more crazy. [00:43:31] Speaker B: What did he use? He's like, you didn't say crazy. [00:43:33] Speaker A: He said, I'm becoming more uptight. [00:43:36] Speaker B: Like, my wife's married to you. Because I said that Joey's becoming less uptight because he's married to me. [00:43:41] Speaker A: He, like, doesn't care if the Toothpaste is off. Me and him could never. Me and your husband could never. [00:43:46] Speaker B: You guys would be like, oh, like. [00:43:48] Speaker A: Buried in the ground. [00:43:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I think it really takes a little balance. [00:43:52] Speaker A: Like, he's not. He's definitely not messy. I mean, he's kind of messy. He leaves him. I just had a. I just picked his underwear off the floor. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Oh, Joey has to pick mine. [00:44:01] Speaker A: No, like, he. You're not messy. Like, where. He's dirty. [00:44:04] Speaker B: Just messy doesn't mean dirty. [00:44:06] Speaker A: No, it doesn't. But he just yells from the kitchen. [00:44:08] Speaker B: He's not messy. [00:44:09] Speaker A: I'm saying he's definitely, like, not me. Like, he doesn't need to do the laundry of the day. He doesn't need to make the bed every day. He doesn't need tout. He said he makes about everything. So anyway, he doesn't need to do all those things. Whereas, like, that's like, a part of me. Yeah, it's part of my personality. And he's becoming more like me. So he's definitely a hybrid. He's definitely more relaxed in the sense where he doesn't. He doesn't need to be like. But he follows my rules. [00:44:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:31] Speaker A: He lives under my rules. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Should. Yeah. He lives under my roof. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:35] Speaker B: My house, bitch. [00:44:36] Speaker A: So what does Joey do around the house? Huh? [00:44:39] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know if he's ever done laundry a day in his life. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:44:42] Speaker B: No, he doesn't do laundry. I mean, he would, but he doesn't. [00:44:45] Speaker A: No. Saying he will. But he doesn't. [00:44:47] Speaker B: No. But I think it's funny. I have to note. So I'm super type A. Joey's type A. But my kids. My kids are more type A. Which is weird. [00:44:57] Speaker A: They really are. [00:44:58] Speaker B: They're around me. [00:44:59] Speaker A: But they put you in your place. [00:45:00] Speaker B: Like, the other day, I. What did I do? Oh, Joey, my oldest, was like, ma, shut the light. You gotta shut the light. I'm like, what? Why do I have to shut the light? [00:45:09] Speaker A: I. That is. She's not lying. [00:45:12] Speaker B: Or like, they'll be like, oh, here comes disaster Mommy. I'm like, why am I disaster Mommy? Like, like, mom, because you're a disaster. They call me Calamity Jane. My dad called me. Yeah, he's Calamity Jane. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:24] Speaker B: Calamity Jane. That's so funny. [00:45:25] Speaker A: So you thrive off of that. [00:45:27] Speaker B: I mean, the way I like trying. [00:45:29] Speaker A: To live, I wonder if my son's. [00:45:31] Speaker B: Gonna say about me just trying to live. [00:45:33] Speaker A: So anyway, your husband's crazy and so is mine. That's that. What's happening oh, titty. He's about to make a moon. [00:45:42] Speaker B: He about to say bit. Yo. [00:45:44] Speaker A: I'm excited for this one. You're kidding. Not the background music. I remember this song. [00:45:49] Speaker B: My kids feral on the couch. Your kids eat fruit color coded pouch. My kids crusty and sticky. Your kids won't even lick me. My kids eat dino nuggets on the floor. Your kids live at whole food store. My kids rock peaches at noon. Your kids in mashing linen with the moon. My kids skip naps and rage Your kids down at 1pm Burn sage. My kids thrive off Kraft Mac and cheese. Your kids sign Annie's, please. My kids wild free ballin. Your kids in corduroy crawling. My kids get desi on their butts. Your kids get coconut oil for every cut. My kids fart and queef. Your kids eat grass fed leaves. My kids think chalking gourmet cheese. Your kids microdosing peas. My kids is stained and shit. Your kids got a crisp kith fit my schedule. Nah, I wing the day. Yours is lemonade sleigh. Now it's time we let the world know. Mama, you gotta let your kids grow. Mama clock is the best in the business. P. Yes. Got kids making quiches. [00:46:59] Speaker A: That was so good. I love it. Thank you. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Thank you, my dick. If anyone hasn't heard the song, listen to it. I grew up with it. [00:47:07] Speaker A: I thrived. All of it. That was so good. I'm so proud of you. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Thanks. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Call her. [00:47:11] Speaker B: Call her daddy. Call her mommy. [00:47:14] Speaker A: That was really good. [00:47:15] Speaker B: Thanks. I. I like did it late night. I liked it. [00:47:18] Speaker A: Oh, exciting things that we forgot to mention while we wrap this thing up. [00:47:22] Speaker B: We had a meeting. [00:47:23] Speaker A: We had a meeting with Juicy Tits. Exciting things coming. [00:47:26] Speaker B: I'm so excited. [00:47:27] Speaker A: I'm so excited. You don't even know. Honestly. It's gonna be a hell of a ride, I'll tell you that much. Literally, that's all I say. But I'm really excited. [00:47:34] Speaker B: Mom confessions. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Oh, let's do it. [00:47:36] Speaker B: Let's get into it. [00:47:37] Speaker A: All right. We have a few mom confessions. Like we do every episode. We pull some mom confessions from the audience. They give us their dirtiest, deepest. They've never told a soul. This type of confession. And we read them off anonymously. But we know who you are. This guy. [00:47:58] Speaker B: Okay. When my son was in Bre pre K, they had nap pads. And one time I washed the sheets and brought them back to school. When I picked my son up, the teacher handed me my black Victoria's Secret thong that got stuck in the sheets. [00:48:10] Speaker A: I can't that is like. [00:48:11] Speaker B: That would happen to me too. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Definitely. Me too. [00:48:13] Speaker B: Always gets stuck wrapped in. [00:48:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:17] Speaker B: I track poop schedules in a shared family Google calendar, and my husband is terrified. [00:48:23] Speaker A: It's called organization called type A. [00:48:25] Speaker B: Type A baby. Okay, this is a long one, but it's good. [00:48:29] Speaker A: Okay, go. [00:48:30] Speaker B: We had a travel trailer, an RV during COVID and literally hit the road and traveled the east coast. In our journey to Georgia. We stopped in Tennessee and got stuck in a mud hole and needed to call for help. In the middle of nowhere, some roadside help came, which was an older man in suspenders. He actually looked like Santa. Anyway, he made my husband get out of the car so he could control and maneuver my truck that was hauling my trailer. My three kids were in the car, and we were standing right there. After a few attempts, he got the car and trailer out of the mud and then rolled down the window and said that he's taking it for a spin just to check to make sure everything was okay. He went off and drove with my kids. I was an absolute crazy person. Shaking and numb. And I thought, I lost my kids forever. Worst feeling in the world. And it all happened so fast. Like, why didn't I think to have one of us in the car when the guy was. [00:49:18] Speaker A: I would have done the same trunk. [00:49:19] Speaker B: Needless to say, he came back and he was the nicest guy ever. But. Oh, my. [00:49:24] Speaker A: I've got. I would have died. [00:49:26] Speaker B: No, I would have. I would have ran so fast, like, the ice cream truck. [00:49:30] Speaker A: I would have passed away on the floor. I would have fainted. [00:49:32] Speaker B: I couldn't even imagine that. [00:49:34] Speaker A: No, I mean, I would think that. I would think the same exact thing. [00:49:37] Speaker B: Like, you wouldn't take your kids out of the car. [00:49:39] Speaker A: No, I would probably make the mistake and, like, get out, like, not thinking anything of it, and then also freak out when he drove away. Like, oh, my God, he's stealing my kids. Like, not thinking. He was, like, a nice man. [00:49:47] Speaker B: Oh, I would definitely think he was taking my kids, but I don't think I would leave my kids. [00:49:51] Speaker A: No, you definitely wouldn't. [00:49:52] Speaker B: No, I'm too. That's too. [00:49:53] Speaker A: I just wouldn't be thinking. [00:49:55] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. I mean, it happens. Real. [00:49:59] Speaker A: Anywho. Okay, you guys, that's a wrap. 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